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Decoder with Nilay Patel

by The Verge

About the show

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

Latest episodes

  • The SaaSpocalypse that wasn't, with Atlassian's CEO

    September 28, 2026 · 1 hr 16 min

    My guest today is Mike Cannon-Brookes, who is co-founder and CEO of Atlassian. Atlassian is one of those companies that every other company runs on — it makes important platform tools like Jira and Trello. This means Atlassian is also…

  • Can Cloudflare save the web from AI?

    September 26, 2026 · 1 hr 18 min

    Cloudflare discovered in June that bots already make up more than half of internet traffic — and CEO Matthew Prince says that bots could outnumber humans a thousand to one within five years. That's a huge change to the internet, and if…

  • I have some questions for Mark Zuckerberg

    September 24, 2026 · 23 min

    It’s a big week for Meta. The company has its big Connect conference, and the new Muse AI agent appears to be an early hit. CEO Mark Zuckerberg has been doing a lot of interviews about it all — so of course we asked for him to be on…

  • Can John Ternus find Apple's next big thing?

    September 21, 2026 · 58 min

    Today, I’m talking with Bloomberg’s Mark Gurman, who is the world’s best-sourced Apple reporter. Earlier this month, Apple hosted its annual iPhone hardware event, and this event was special, for a number of reasons.  It was new Apple CEO…

  • Does AI need an antitrust exemption so it doesn't kill everyone????

    September 19, 2026 · 46 min

    The biggest story in tech right now is the spiraling debate about AI safety and regulation. The CEOs of all these companies have issued various calls to slow down development and develop regulation, including asking for antitrust…

  • Microsoft AI CEO says AI threats are real, and Anthropic is making it worse

    September 17, 2026 · 53 min

    Today, I’m talking with Mustafa Suleyman, the CEO of Microsoft AI. As you’re no doubt aware, the biggest story in tech right now is the spiraling debate about AI safety and regulation. So I really wanted to talk to Mustafa about what he…

  • Adam Conover explains how YouTube ruined everything

    September 14, 2026 · 1 hr 5 min

    Adam Conover is a familiar face to anyone who’s spent time on the internet. He got his start at CollegeHumor back in the day, before transitioning into cable TV with Adam Ruins Everything, then onto Netflix, and all the way back to YouTube…

  • Why the current tech backlash feels different

    September 10, 2026 · 55 min

    We’re back with another Decoder mailbag special. This time, we focused on feedback to Nilay’s “software brain” video essay, our ongoing coverage of AI and Big Tech backlash, surveillance, interviewing politicians ahead of the midterms, and…